![]() ![]() I didn't know squat about 7-8 so I would be very blunt with the ODA TS: I'm good at my job but I suck at yours and I'm very eager to learn. I was already an E-7, MOSQ'd with a ton of 35P experience but ZERO Army experience when I showed up at the us I was old. If they can train indig to standards, they can train 35-series! Remember that SF guys are the BEST instructors out there. I thought the same thing after I joined 20th Group and requested the 14-day 11B transition course but after a few ATs and drills with ODAs, I changed my plan. But you are right, I have experienced going through drills and exercises with ODA members before deployments or JRTC, and that my focus should be on SIGINT. ![]() Also to bring that knowledge down to any subordinates and superiors alike within the 35 series field. My reasoning was so that I had more of the infantry basic skills and background to be a better support soldier or so that who ever I was supporting would have more confidence in me. It just takes Commanders willing to demand it and not take no for an answer. We've actually got the scratch to pay for someone to voluntarily pick up Infantry skills/Secondary MOS. The Army wastes an incredible amount of time and money on all kinds of mandatory PC training crap and other expenditure programs. It might serve as something of a de facto "Selection" for those wishing assignment to Group. I'd like to see every swingin' Support troop put through an Infantry SUT. I'd say their risk factor for such was arguably higher than the average ODA's, because they had to drive repetitiously predictable routes. Their TICs, IEDs, EFPs, and casualties were the same as anyone else's. They were perfectly capable of assimilating the training, they applied it to good purpose across their tour, and they were grateful to be treated as adults in a combat zone. from cherry Private to Support Staff Officer. I had them shooting and moving, firing from turrets, firing over hoods, firing from under vehicles, doing transition drills, casualty drags, vehicle dismounts while firing. Not appropriate because it wasn't in their little chunk of 350-1. Despite the fact that those kids were trolling for fire everyday on convoy ops with damn few SF or Infantry qualified guys in the mix. I had someone tell me I couldn't teach Bn Support troops to do advanced marksmanship, live fire vehicle drills, and certain live fire movement drills while we were downrange. They wind up on the ground more than their MTOE or MOS would seem to indicate. I'm all for training Support folks to the max allowable / achievable level. But plenty of non- prior Infantry types were also awarded that Secondary MOS. and I was already an 11C before coming to Group. ![]() Of course, that was during a pre-18MOS era. OJT with the documentation to justify it. In other words, don't hold discussions behind your boss's back.Īs a new SF guy, I picked up an 11B Secondary, as did many others in my battalion. you'd better get him that way before you go stirring things up. If you're current NCOIC isn't on board (or at least informed). From there, the Bn OPS SGM & Schools NCO may be able to offer some opportunity to attend supporting training or exercise. If they support it, your current shop leadership supports it, and the S2 supports it.the CSM & 1SG likely will. There might be a way to reclass to 98 series (or ride their training coat tails) to an OJT 11B secondary or even a future Ranger School slot. Wander over to your SOT-B/SOT-A folks and talk with them (starting with NCO leadership). However, there's the Army way of doing things and there's the Army Guard way of accomplishing certain voodoo. It's unlikely that anyone is going to pay to send you for (or award) an 11 secondary. ![]()
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